VW Passat B6 05г.

[dimappvl]

Авто пассат B6 2005г. В наличие один родной ключ, подарили 1 б/у ключ от другой машины. Возможно ли привязать эл. ключ от другой машины на свою как это сделать ил посоветуете где это делают. Понимаю что обычная процедура по прописи его VAG COMOm не прокатит. В инете нашёл только как на новые X5 и MB ML прошивают и программируют на фольц ничего нет. Спасибо

[skupe]

отдайте спецам а то еще свой загубите

[dimappvl]

Я и прошу совета, где спецы работают, адрес в Москве скиньте, а то никакой инфы нет

[polubak77]

Авто пассат B6 2005г. В наличие один родной ключ, подарили 1 б/у ключ от другой машины. Возможно ли привязать эл. ключ от другой машины на свою как это сделать ил  посоветуете где это делают. Понимаю что обычная процедура по прописи его VAG COMOm не прокатит. В инете нашёл только как на новые X5 и MB ML прошивают и программируют на фольц ничего нет. Спасибо

 

Отдай ключ обратно и езжай к официалом, если спецов типа рядом нет .За N количество денег они тебе и ПИН и болванку закажут,ну и пропишут конечно.

 

 

Вот инфа для размышления,если она поможет тебе конечно.

 

Determining IMMO-ID & VIN

 

[select]

[25 - Immobilizer]

[Meas. Blocks - 08]

Select Block 081.

[Go!]

The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID..

[Done, Go Back]

[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

 

 

Key Matching

 

Prerequisites:

All keys are either new or were adapted to this car (IMMO-ID) before.

You can match up to 8 keys.

While adapting each key, make sure to place the other keys away from the ignition lock (reader coil). The passenger seat is an adequate place.

Battery voltage at least 12.0 V.

 

 

[select]

[25 - Immobilizer]

[Meas. Blocks - 08]

Select Block 001.

[Go!]

The value in field 3 must be Yes. If value is No, the key is not capable of being adapted to Immobilizer.

You can check each key in this manner.

 

 

Select Block 003.

[Go!]

Make sure the shown lock times in field 1, 2 and 3 are 0 (each field represents a time in minutes).

If the lock times are NOT 0:

Do NOT switch off the ignition!

Allow the car to sit for AT LEAST the number of minutes that were indicated by the fields 1-3.

 

[Done, Go Back]

 

 

[security Access - 16]

There are 2 possibilities how to enter a PIN, choose the one that applies for you.

4-digit PIN

Enter zero followed by the 4-digit PIN. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.

7-digit PIN

[use 7-digit PIN/SKC]

Enter the 7-digit PIN, Date on which the PIN was generated by the dealer, along with the Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number of the dealer that generated the code.

[OK]

VAG-COM will validate the data you have entered and return you to the Login screen, where the Login Code will show as "XXXXX".

 

[Do it!]

 

 

[Adaptation - 10]

Enter 001 in "Channel Number".

[Read]

The "Stored Value" is the number of keys currently matched.

Enter a "new value" corresponding to the total number of keys to be matched, including any existing keys.

The old keys are automatically beeing cleared.

[save]

[Done, Go Back]

[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

Repeat the following steps until all keys have been matched:

Switch ignition off and remove key.

Insert next key to ignition and switch ignition on again.

The warning light for the Immobilizer will light up for ~2 seconds, then go out Switch ignition off and remove key.

 

Note: The above steps after saving the adaptation, should not exceed 60 seconds!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[select]

[01 - Engine]

[Meas. Blocks - 08]

Select Block 081.

[Go!]

The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID (does not apply for all models).

[Done, Go Back]

 

On models which do not have an IMMO-ID you need to use the IMMO-Challenge instead.

[Advanced ID - 1A]

See the field IMMO-Challenge for the current value, keep in mind that the challenge changes with every ignition cycle!

[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

 

 

Determining VIN (Instrument Cluster) & IMMO-ID/Challenge

 

[select]

[25 - Immobilizer]

[Meas. Blocks - 08]

Select Block 081.

[Go!]

The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID (does not apply for all models).

[Done, Go Back]

 

On models which do not have an IMMO-ID you need to use the IMMO-Challenge instead.

[Advanced ID - 1A]

See the field IMMO-Challenge for the current value, keep in mind that the challenge changes with every ignition cycle!

[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

 

 

Engine Control Unit (ECU) Swapping (USED ECU)

 

Prerequisites:

The NEW (USED) ECU is already installed in the car.

Battery voltage at least 12.0 V.

All relevant coding and adaptation values have been transferred from the OLD (ORIGINAL) ECU to the NEW (USED) ECU.

Make sure to have BOTH PIN's, from the OLD (ORIGINAL) and the NEW (USED) ECU.

 

 

[select]

[01 - Engine]

 

 

[security Access - 16]

For the following procedure, use the PIN of the NEW (USED) ECU.

There are 2 possibilities how to enter a PIN, choose the one that applies for you.

4/5-digit PIN

The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.

7-digit PIN

[use 7-digit PIN/SKC]

Enter the 7-digit PIN, Date on which the PIN was generated by the dealer, along with the Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number of the dealer that generated the code.

[OK]

VAG-COM will validate the data you have entered and return you to the Login screen, where the Login Code will show as "XXXXX".

 

[Do it!]

 

 

The instrument cluster now shows Immobilizer Adaptation active, wait until it changes to Immobilizer active - this may take up to 2 Minutes.

 

 

[Adaptation - 10]

Enter 050 in "Channel Number".

[Read]

For the following procedure, use the PIN of the OLD (ORIGINAL) ECU.

There are 2 possibilities how to enter a PIN, choose the one that applies for you.

4/5-digit PIN

The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.

7-digit PIN

[use 7-digit PIN/SKC]

Enter the 7-digit PIN, Date on which the PIN was generated by the dealer, along with the Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number of the dealer that generated the code.

[OK]

VAG-COM will validate the data you have entered and return you to the Login screen, where the Login Code will show as "XXXXX".

 

[Test]

Check the 1st measuring value.

[save]

[Done, Go Back]

[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

 

 

Switch OFF the ignition and let the car sit for ~1 minute, then switch ON the ignition again.

Verify that the NEW (USED) ECU now shows the VIN (and if supported IMMO-ID) of the vehicle now.

The challenge of instrument cluster and ECU never matches, so don't bother checking them.

 

 

 

[dimappvl]

Отдай ключ обратно и езжай к официалом, если спецов типа рядом нет .За N количество денег они тебе и ПИН и болванку закажут,ну и пропишут конечно.

 

 

Вот инфа для размышления,если она поможет тебе конечно.

 

Determining IMMO-ID & VIN

 

[select]

[25 - Immobilizer]

[Meas. Blocks - 08]

Select Block 081.

[Go!]

The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID..

[Done, Go Back]

[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

 

 

Key Matching

 

Prerequisites:

All keys are either new or were adapted to this car (IMMO-ID) before.

You can match up to 8 keys.

While adapting each key, make sure to place the other keys away from the ignition lock (reader coil). The passenger seat is an adequate place.

Battery voltage at least 12.0 V.

 

 

[select]

[25 - Immobilizer]

[Meas. Blocks - 08]

Select Block 001.

[Go!]

The value in field 3 must be Yes. If value is No, the key is not capable of being adapted to Immobilizer.

You can check each key in this manner.

 

 

Select Block 003.

[Go!]

Make sure the shown lock times in field 1, 2 and 3 are 0 (each field represents a time in minutes).

If the lock times are NOT 0:

Do NOT switch off the ignition!

Allow the car to sit for AT LEAST the number of minutes that were indicated by the fields 1-3.

 

[Done, Go Back]

 

 

[security Access - 16]

There are 2 possibilities how to enter a PIN, choose the one that applies for you.

4-digit PIN

Enter zero followed by the 4-digit PIN. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.

7-digit PIN

[use 7-digit PIN/SKC]

Enter the 7-digit PIN, Date on which the PIN was generated by the dealer, along with the Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number of the dealer that generated the code.

[OK]

VAG-COM will validate the data you have entered and return you to the Login screen, where the Login Code will show as "XXXXX".

 

[Do it!]

 

 

[Adaptation - 10]

Enter 001 in "Channel Number".

[Read]

The "Stored Value" is the number of keys currently matched.

Enter a "new value" corresponding to the total number of keys to be matched, including any existing keys.

The old keys are automatically beeing cleared.

[save]

[Done, Go Back]

[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

Repeat the following steps until all keys have been matched:

Switch ignition off and remove key.

Insert next key to ignition and switch ignition on again.

The warning light for the Immobilizer will light up for ~2 seconds, then go out Switch ignition off and remove key.

 

Note: The above steps after saving the adaptation, should not exceed 60 seconds!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[select]

[01 - Engine]

[Meas. Blocks - 08]

Select Block 081.

[Go!]

The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID (does not apply for all models).

[Done, Go Back]

 

On models which do not have an IMMO-ID you need to use the IMMO-Challenge instead.

[Advanced ID - 1A]

See the field IMMO-Challenge for the current value, keep in mind that the challenge changes with every ignition cycle!

[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

 

 

Determining VIN (Instrument Cluster) & IMMO-ID/Challenge

 

[select]

[25 - Immobilizer]

[Meas. Blocks - 08]

Select Block 081.

[Go!]

The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID (does not apply for all models).

[Done, Go Back]

 

On models which do not have an IMMO-ID you need to use the IMMO-Challenge instead.

[Advanced ID - 1A]

See the field IMMO-Challenge for the current value, keep in mind that the challenge changes with every ignition cycle!

[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

 

 

Engine Control Unit (ECU) Swapping (USED ECU)

 

Prerequisites:

The NEW (USED) ECU is already installed in the car.

Battery voltage at least 12.0 V.

All relevant coding and adaptation values have been transferred from the OLD (ORIGINAL) ECU to the NEW (USED) ECU.

Make sure to have BOTH PIN's, from the OLD (ORIGINAL) and the NEW (USED) ECU.

 

 

[select]

[01 - Engine]

 

 

[security Access - 16]

For the following procedure, use the PIN of the NEW (USED) ECU.

There are 2 possibilities how to enter a PIN, choose the one that applies for you.

4/5-digit PIN

The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.

7-digit PIN

[use 7-digit PIN/SKC]

Enter the 7-digit PIN, Date on which the PIN was generated by the dealer, along with the Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number of the dealer that generated the code.

[OK]

VAG-COM will validate the data you have entered and return you to the Login screen, where the Login Code will show as "XXXXX".

 

[Do it!]

 

 

The instrument cluster now shows Immobilizer Adaptation active, wait until it changes to Immobilizer active - this may take up to 2 Minutes.

 

 

[Adaptation - 10]

Enter 050 in "Channel Number".

[Read]

For the following procedure, use the PIN of the OLD (ORIGINAL) ECU.

There are 2 possibilities how to enter a PIN, choose the one that applies for you.

4/5-digit PIN

The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.

7-digit PIN

[use 7-digit PIN/SKC]

Enter the 7-digit PIN, Date on which the PIN was generated by the dealer, along with the Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number of the dealer that generated the code.

[OK]

VAG-COM will validate the data you have entered and return you to the Login screen, where the Login Code will show as "XXXXX".

 

[Test]

Check the 1st measuring value.

[save]

[Done, Go Back]

[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]

 

 

Switch OFF the ignition and let the car sit for ~1 minute, then switch ON the ignition again.

Verify that the NEW (USED) ECU now shows the VIN (and if supported IMMO-ID) of the vehicle now.

The challenge of instrument cluster and ECU never matches, so don't bother checking them.

 

Большое спасибо за ответ. А как пин ключа можно узнать, который собираюсь привязать к авто.

Изменено 14 октября, 2010 пользователем dimappvl

[polubak77]

Большое спасибо за ответ. А как пин ключа можно узнать, который собираюсь привязать к авто.

Можно руками вытащить,а можно и шнурком.

 

 

 

[dimappvl]

Можно руками вытащить,а можно и шнурком.

Да всё так только разочарование. Если ключ б/у он был привязян на другую машину и к другому иммо т.е. он "закрыт" и перепрограммировать микросхему ключа нельзя. Он одноразовый и подходит только для машины на которую прописывался 1-й раз, на другую никак не пропишешь

[polubak77]

Да всё так только разочарование. Если ключ б/у он был привязян на другую машину и к другому иммо т.е. он "закрыт" и перепрограммировать микросхему ключа нельзя. Он одноразовый и подходит только для машины на которую прописывался 1-й раз, на другую никак не пропишешь

Тебе выше уже об этом написали.